Oh, yeah, lesbian pulps were pretty terrible for the most part. (Mind you, gay pulps were equally as bad). The lesbian was always predatory and there only to mess up the "good" straight girls by trying to woo them away from their dudes.
Off the top of my head, I'd say that the only books from that era that had positive lesbian/queer (no one was labeled bisexual) F/F relationships are the first two books in the Beebo Brinker Chronicles (Odd Girl Out and I Am Woman). The rest of the series went into a WTF!spiral that I can't even begin to explain. The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith (which is the novel the movie Carol is based on) also had a surprising lack of negative portrayals of lesbians.
Sometimes when I've seen people talking about not reading about women they've linked it to escapism and that one of the ways for a character to escape from a lot of the whole systemic anti-women thing is to be a man, which is.... maybe true but also /o\. I do think there is also a thing where most of us are trained to have some white dude as our default character and so that can be very familiar. IDK.
Huh, I can see that. For me it's just a shocking lack of interest on reading F/F (which is something I'm trying to correct because that's ten kinds of messed up, you know?)
Perhaps is the fact that I'm older or that I've been in Fandom for a long time, but I've noticed a very marked dislike for a lot of media that only has white dudes as the main character. I don't understand why in 2016 the majority of the stuff that's marketed for media consumption doesn't have POCs or non-straight people ASIDE from gay males. Personally, I don't have time for that kind of bullshit. It puts me at odds with some aspects of Bandom and lot of MCU. Baby steps, I guess.
Regarding the Brokeback Mountain thing, I don't think neither the other woman nor myself had ANY idea that the movie was going to be such a downer. All we know was that there was an LGTB+ relationship at the center of it and that was enough to entice us to the movies. *facepalms*
*nods* I am all about the fluffy ridiculous happy queer things.
I think that one of the things I'm most interested in nowadays are established couples. Seeing queer peeps deal with the ups and down of life after being together for a number of years is, like, one of my kryptonites. LOL!
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Date: 2016-02-16 10:03 pm (UTC)Off the top of my head, I'd say that the only books from that era that had positive lesbian/queer (no one was labeled bisexual) F/F relationships are the first two books in the Beebo Brinker Chronicles (Odd Girl Out and I Am Woman). The rest of the series went into a WTF!spiral that I can't even begin to explain. The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith (which is the novel the movie Carol is based on) also had a surprising lack of negative portrayals of lesbians.
Sometimes when I've seen people talking about not reading about women they've linked it to escapism and that one of the ways for a character to escape from a lot of the whole systemic anti-women thing is to be a man, which is.... maybe true but also /o\. I do think there is also a thing where most of us are trained to have some white dude as our default character and so that can be very familiar. IDK.
Huh, I can see that. For me it's just a shocking lack of interest on reading F/F (which is something I'm trying to correct because that's ten kinds of messed up, you know?)
Perhaps is the fact that I'm older or that I've been in Fandom for a long time, but I've noticed a very marked dislike for a lot of media that only has white dudes as the main character. I don't understand why in 2016 the majority of the stuff that's marketed for media consumption doesn't have POCs or non-straight people ASIDE from gay males. Personally, I don't have time for that kind of bullshit. It puts me at odds with some aspects of Bandom and lot of MCU. Baby steps, I guess.
Regarding the Brokeback Mountain thing, I don't think neither the other woman nor myself had ANY idea that the movie was going to be such a downer. All we know was that there was an LGTB+ relationship at the center of it and that was enough to entice us to the movies. *facepalms*
*nods* I am all about the fluffy ridiculous happy queer things.
I think that one of the things I'm most interested in nowadays are established couples. Seeing queer peeps deal with the ups and down of life after being together for a number of years is, like, one of my kryptonites. LOL!